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Is photography art?
Contributed by: Michael Rule   on 2/17/2008

The other night Susan and I went down to the library for the awards ceremony for the Romancing the Arts exhibit.

I had entered one of my photographs, and though I didn't expect to win any sort of recognition, I was excited (and more than a little nervous) to finally show a bit of my work after almost 30 years "out of the scene", so to speak.

There are some excellent pieces of work on exhibit. If you haven't gone yet, I urge you to head on down to the library and check it out. This area is blessed with some real talent.

Having said that, I must say that I was stunned that not one piece of photography received so much as a ribbon.

Apparently, if you don't have a brush in your hand, you're not considered an artist of any merit around here, and to me that's sad.

Now, before you start going off about my sour grapes, please believe me when I tell you that my lack of winning any personal kudos is not my point. There were quite a few photographs on display besides mine, all of them quite well done.

There has been a debate about photography's place in the art world since the first daguerreotype. The recent evolution of the digital age and Photoshop has possibly hurt that argument more than it has helped.

Today the rage in Photoshop is all about manipulating. The push these days seems to be to present photography as something else.

The "paintbrush" look is huge, as evidenced by the number of entries with this "look".

When I went to a recent Photoshop seminar, everybody, including the instructor, was more interested in what can be done to turn the image into something else, rather than such mundane things as color balance and sharpness.

I'm pretty old school. My favorite photographer is Edward Weston, and I'll never forget the time, at about 16, when I saw my first Ansel Adams exhibit. His photographs took my breath away.

He and his contemporaries were quite rigorous in how photographs were to be shot and presented. They wanted no resemblance to any other art form; they wanted their photographs to stand on their own.

Today you can never be sure if what you are seeing is actually what was photographed. That bothers me a bit. It's kind of like watching Roger Clemens pitch and wondering if he cheated. Or like watching Barry Bonds hit and knowing he cheated.

Today you have to wonder, were those clouds really that color? Were there really clouds there in the first place? Was that barn even in that field? So much can, and is done in Photoshop these days that a photo presented in the "classic" sense almost looks outdated, or simplistic.

In that sense I can see a judge's hesitancy to compare a photograph most likely manipulated in a computer with something he or she knows was done entirely by hand, with a brush.

However, putting together an art show and lumping everything as one, then picking only the paintings as worthy of credit is kind of like having a show on personal transportation and giving all the awards to cars while ignoring the bicycle. Sure, they took more to produce, but really, are they any better?

Perhaps in the future the Greater Castle Rock Art Guild will see the wisdom in dividing their judging into the different disciplines,not dumping them all on the same table, and with the same jurors. In the meantime, I'll continue to support local artists. Really, the talent is incredible.

As far as the photos manipulated and printed to look like paintings, though, Ansel Adams and Edward Weston are probably rolling over in their graves.....




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Submitted By: Charmaine Robledo
posted on 2/20/2008 @ 3:02:55 PM
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I'd like to think everything I do is artistic. :-) Even when I take a cell phone photo of my cat sitting on the window sill.
Submitted By: Sandy Clifton
posted on 2/19/2008 @ 8:34:19 AM
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I agree with you. I do "old fashion" photography and photography with photo editing done to it for effect. I wasn't able to go to the romance art show (forgot it was going on...too much on my plate at the moment.) but I think there should be 3 seperate catg. 1 for paintings and drawings because it takes EXTREME talent to put something on paper or canvas and have it even remotely resemble our life, 2 have "old fashion" photography where the only thing you can adjust is the basics, lighting, color, brightness and contrast... and then 3 photography done with photo editing. where the majority of the image was actually there but you changed it drastically from the original. I do think they should be seperated out and it is not fair to the photographers...example me.
Submitted By: Michael Rule
posted on 2/19/2008 @ 7:16:55 AM
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But, but....it's not about me! I suggest anyone interested in what I entered take a trip to the library and check out ALL the entries...
Submitted By: Nikki Britain
posted on 2/19/2008 @ 5:27:33 AM
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Yep, Mick, post 'em! I'm with Barbara!
Submitted By: Barbara Neff
posted on 2/18/2008 @ 1:54:59 PM
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My definition of art matches Tom Treloar's below. Perhaps fairness in judging involves categorizing. Comparing a sculpture to an oil painting to a photograph to a hand-woven basket makes no sense, but they are all art. Mick, won't you share the photos you entered here? Let us be the judges!
Submitted By: Phyllis R Rule
posted on 2/18/2008 @ 12:46:10 PM
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Mick: Then comes the question: what is Art? I believe it is the creative expression of an idea, feeling that allows the viewer to see and feel beyond the apparent. A true artist can open your eyes and soul to what is beyond the visible. I don't believe the medium used -- photography vs. paint -- is as important as the creative expression itself. When the question becomes, what is the medium instead of what does the creation do, I think the importance is lost. Every painter isn't an artist; every photographer isn't an Ansel Adams, even with the help of a computer. Computers can change photograhs, and adding to paintings can change them. I just don't think that's the point. There are kinds of photography as there are kinds of paintigs. Do we really expect all Art to mirror true life? No, we don't, so why expect it of photography? Yes, I believe photography is an Art and should be given due respect and judged as all other art forms.
Submitted By: Karin Malchow
posted on 2/17/2008 @ 4:44:50 PM
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There's always the perennial modern art debate; you know, the one where someone says "My kid could do that."
Submitted By: Tamara Culp
posted on 2/17/2008 @ 2:55:28 PM
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One more comment from me...my pet peeve about digitally enhanced photos. I like good ones, I like some that look like paintings, I like some that look like mixed media collages, I repeat, I like good ones. However, I would like to know if a photo has been digitally enhanced. I also would like to know when a negative has been "pushed" in the darkroom, or a colored filter has been used on the lens. Of course photography is art but I like to know what I'm looking at!
Submitted By: Katherine Jerome
posted on 2/17/2008 @ 2:11:43 PM
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Art is about producing something that evokes emotion. Over my lifetime, I have been touched deeply by many photographs and have much admiration for an artist that can capture a great snapshot through their camera lens.
Submitted By: Tom Treloar
posted on 2/17/2008 @ 1:02:21 PM
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If it is pleasing to the eyes and the brain, I consider it art. Therefore, I feel photography is art.
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