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Blog Entry 4 of 6
2007 Lakewood City Council/Mayorial Race Blog
This is what I think of the mayorial race. It will explain my postings and include responses to postings.
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Entries:
9/25/2007 'Raison D'etre'
9/25/2007 'Rita's answers - updated'
9/25/2007 'I wonder about schools and ...'
10/4/2007 'More on eminent domain'
10/5/2007 'Even More on Eminent Domain'
10/27/2007 'A lament for Carma's neighb...'
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Contributed by:
Allan Berger
on 10/4/2007
I am concerned about Rita's posts on eminent domain.
She is accusing RTD of abusing eminent domain by taking property from Lakewood property holders. First point: This is a misstatement of fact. In fact, RTD has said that it wants to use the property. It has also said that it would prefer an amicable agreement rather than the use of eminent domain procedures. Second point: I am not so sure that this is an abuse of eminent domain. RTD needs a staging area and use of eminent domain to get it is appropriate. Perhaps there are other areas that could be used, also. But that is a matter of choice, not abuse. Third point: I am sympathetic to the plight of the landowners. But, they will be compensated fair market value for the land. If they think that RTD is not offering enough, they can sue. Fourth point: What the heck does this have to do with the city election?
Next,Rita shows a fundamental misunderstanding of eminent domain. This might not be important, generally, but it is of concern when it comes from a mayoral candidate. Rita needs a legal advisor on her campaign. If she had one, she would never have made the assinine statement that the city cannot trump federal law when she was discussing eminent domain. It was assinine because there is no federal law that covers a city or state instituting eminent domain procedures.
Eminent domain is a very old concept that allows a public entity to take private property for the good of the public. This is a very important concept, because, at least in the U.S., ownership of private property is sacrosanct. Except through private sale or court proceedings enforcing a contract or selling the property to satisfy a debt, there is no other way to separate an owner from his property. Under the federal constitution, eminent domain may only be used for the public good. The recent Kelo case gave a rather expansive definition of public good. In addition, governments must compensate owners for propertytaken by eminent domain. Otherwise, public entities may use eminent domain as they see fit.
It should be noted that this provision of the constitution did not always apply to the states. It was not until the passage of the 14th amendment that this happened. Consequently, until the 1860s, non-federal eminent domain proceedings were limited only by political considerations and state constitutions.
States, including Colorado, have their own eminent domain proceedings. Some are more expansive than others. So long as they do not violate the proscriptions of federal law, states may do whatever they want to do. That is not to say that an eminent domain law would always prevail. It has to be consistent with the state constitution. States may also allow other public entities to use eminent domain. As long as the implementing laws are consistent with the constitutions of the state and federal governments, they will be legal. And other public entities may use eminent domain and develop procedures so long as they are consistent with everything above.
So, back to the RTD use of eminent domain. I think we can safely assume that the RTD procedures are consistent with their rules, the state law, the state constitution, and the federal constitution. If they are not, there likely would have been suits long ago. If we do not like the procedures, as the anti-Kelo groups do not, they should work to change the law.
That leaves the use of eminent domain to politics. Whether what RTD is doing is right is a matter of opinion. That is RTD
can
do it, but
should
they do it?
Frankly, I do not know whether RTD should be doing what it is doing. If Rita thinks they should not, she should explain why. To make an ad hominen attack on RTD is bordering on the absurd.
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Submitted By: Brad Bettag
posted on 1/10/2008 @ 2:39:08 PM
Rated Blog Entry
Oh and by the way, any relation to Rita Skeeter? :-p
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Submitted By: Brad Bettag
posted on 1/10/2008 @ 2:38:03 PM
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Articles are weak? Rita you are in lala land. Allen is completely accurate when it comes to Emminent Domain. To whine about it now is absurd. You only would care if it is affecting your property. No one cares if it happens to someone else. Like he said, you don't like it try changing the law, don;t try to make an exception to the law for your best interests. You are greedier than RTD. As for the protest, maybe if you propose alternative solutions that are in infact cheaper and more beneficial to RTD instead of just complaining you might actually be heard and respected. Until then, cry a river, build a bridge and get over it.
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Submitted By: Allan Berger
posted on 10/6/2007 @ 9:08:58 AM
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Sorry you think so. But they are my opinion. If you run for mayor, you put your opinions up to public scrutiny. I suggest that you tempor your comments. Spellcheck and grammarcheck might be useful, too.
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Submitted By: Rita Bertolli
posted on 10/5/2007 @ 9:54:48 PM
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These disparaging comments against me are unfounded, an inaccurate misrepresentation of the commentary on this site and what I have actually said. Allan's hearsay is weak at best. He clearly has no clue what properties are up for grabs and why on RTD's light rail. I find it interesting he continues to attack me for the very reasons why his articles are weak.
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