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Builder's thoughts on Lakewood's land give away


I'm a Colorado nativeand have been an active builder in most of the communities in this metropolitan area (including Lakewood) for coming up on 30 years. Recently a most competent and skilled appraiser (Allan Berger) expressed objective observations on the parameters defining the trade outlined in the original appraisal by the city. As a builder, I would absolutely love to have the land that is Iron Springs Park. It is fairly flat. It has views of the front range mountains to die for (something that Lakewood is supposed to "recognize and protect".) It if FAR easier to overlot anddevelop than the ditch at the bottom of the hill that we'll get in trade. I'd be able to capitalize on this by having the most expensive lots in Lakewood. Unfortunately, the land was deeded to the city to be used as a park in perperuity, and as a Coloradoan first, I think it should stay that way. Lakewood can very easily give the developerthe density they want with their existing land. Yes, it is topographically challanging, but that is what land planning is for. Having looked at the site I believe drainage will be easier. As has been pointed out by others, too, implementing this trade will not make any kind of "wildlife corridor", but a death trap for any animal using it. Using my 40 years of experience in the building business there is not doubt that with their current land Carma can still meet their density needs and leave Iron Spring Park to Colorado as was intended.

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We prevaied, 57% AGAINST the swap Jan 2, 2007.

Rich Urbanowski is a bad, mean-spirited planning commissioner. Fortunately, his term is ending soon.

What hooey! The land slopes are essentially the same! The target land actually may be flatter, on average. And overall the views are similar, but the target lands are more likely to be blocked by the residential construction, since they are farther east. This will also happen somewhat to the park land parcels. “Flat” lands get views blocked! The real difference is the perhaps 30' wide drainage channel, which IS a factor in construction, but not necessarily a big one. The engineers, not the builder, design the drainage plan, and they have to accommodate drainage from either group of lands. And Edie's comment is just as stupid as an earlier writer who said the deer would break their legs due to the drainage channel!

Maybe this is why Carma is so anxious for this land trade to occur. Somebody's got to be paying for all those slick oversize postcards with the animals who read.

Steve I wrote a hasty reply to your story yesterday. I read what I said again and now wish I had not responded to your article. I agree what I said was overly personal and I regret having said anything about you. I had just read a very mean spirited and threatening e-mail from Rita Bertolli to a very nice man. I have no reason to believe you had anything to do with this e-mail, but the content irritated me. In the 30 seconds it took to reply to your article, my mood overcame my judgement. For that I am sorry.

Tom, to appraise the land in the way that the city's appraiser did, you do not need to step foot on the land. Not one part of the valuation of the land had to do with the specific characteristics of the land itself. Instead, the appraisal dealt with the zoning requirements, the value of comprable land in the Denver metropolitan area, and the lack of utilities. I am not an appraiser.

"Steve" Keep in mind that your "most competent and skilled appraiser (Allan Berger)" said those who trespassed on this land are of questionable character and not to be trusted. I assume this means Al hasn't set foot on this land (while still being a competent appraiser of this land). Al, if you read this, I'd like to know if you consider yourself a "most competent and skilled appraiser." Something's fishy here. Tom

Mr. Sargent. Lets you and me go walk this land, with my simple hand level. I'll let you read it while I mark the stick. Then lets sit down and decide whose careless. And I haven't stayed in business for 30 years by being careless or using hyperbole. Please keep you personal insults out of this.

Lisa, Hal, (adjacent owners) it's YOU who needs to get the facts straight. The deed say "For Park AND Other Municipal Purposes ONLY." You are both pathetic whiners without any credibility. For the deed, go to lakewoodvoter.com

Get your facts straight. This land was deeded to the city for park OR OTHER MUNICIPAL PURPOSES. The city could put a jail on this property and it would be consistent with the gift.
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