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Blog Entry 6 of 36 The Economic Illiterate
I hate politics. I didn't use to but somewhere between now and about 12 years ago politics has become a one-way street. It seems that anyone who is into politics knows only their street and it has become frustrating. I believe I can make the better argument (for the conservative side that is) with just the facts nearly every time. When it comes to mainstream discussion, I don't believe I've met my match. And it has gotten me all the way to nowhere and back again. But the free markets are a different story. It is a subject that one can study forever and never truly be an expert. To some degree we're all economically illiterate, some more than others. I would likely write mostly about the economic peril we face in this country. Of course if I see anything ridiculous posted by some leftie, I may find it difficult not to jump in even though I know it won't have any effect whatsoever.

Drilling: Just to Tide Us Over (and keep us safe)
Contributed by: David Brown   on 8/17/2008

Preface: After my exchange with Ralph it occurred to me that some may be wondering why I can't seem to let go of this issue. The simple reason is that it's way too important. This is my take on why this issue is so important. You won't hear any of this on Rush Limbaugh or from any of the candidates and the reason is that the American mind just isn't built to accept my premise on what lies ahead economically. I know - I had a really hard time with it myself when I first heard what we're headed for over 2 years ago. Since then I've watched peoples' forecasts unfold with astounding accuracy. If you want to know more, try to find (and read) Conquer the Crash by Robert Prechter. It was written in 2002 and it will make your skin crawl - literally.

While reading an article on CNN Thursday morning about making the case for drilling, I was struck by the last paragraph which made the claim the Republicans are making this a wedge issue.

I don't necessarily disagree with that sentiment but I'd stop short of calling it a "wedge issue" - I'd call it politics. But it just so happens that this time Republicans are making most of the right points. (See The American Energy Act)

I truly think this issue is the defining issue of this election and not because it will lower prices - I don't necessarily agree that it will in the long term although it might. I can make an equal case that drilling will lower prices as I can that drilling will not lower oil prices, which I'm working on now and having a little fun doing it.

The real reason I am so passionate about this issue is for national security and economic reasons. It is no secret that I believe we are headed for an economic downturn of historical proportions. I am convinced that it will happen, just as sure as you are reading this post.

Bear markets produce uneasiness and when we don't feel well socially, we want to fight. That's just human nature - it's been that way since before we became "civilized," whatever that is. So consider that all of the major bear markets have resulted in some armed conflict of some degree and the size of the conflict was usually proportional to the size of the bear market. Some of those include:

1.The Civil War, which followed a 24 year bear market that ended in 1859.

2.The global bear market of the early '30s paved the way for the buildup of the Nazi war machine which led to WWII.(Note: These two bear markets were the largest bear markets in our history and gave rise to the largest conflicts in terms of US casualties.)

3.Mere months before the Cuban Missile Crisis, the DOW had experienced a decline of 29%.

4.Even the relatively mild bear market of 2002 gave way to the Iraq War that more than 70% of the American people supported at the time. It bears mentioning that number began to seriously decline (nearly in half) as the economy improved over the several years that followed the invasion.

This isn't coincidence folks - it's a statement of human social behavior. If I'm correct in the direction of the economy, there will likely be some kind of skirmish, and this country's oil needs to come from here because worldwide supply will likely be disrupted.

The next war is likely to involve the Persian Gulf once again and if we don't get our supply infrastructure on solid ground, we're going to wish we had. The easy meat is in ANWR and other locations in the Arctic Coastal Plain but the economic benefits will be found in the Gulf both off shore and in the outer continental shelf. This means jobs and lots of them for an economy that will soon be screaming for jobs. And these are good jobs paying in the neighborhood of $25/hour for the most experienced.

Like it or not, this is a fossil fuels based economy. We get only 3% of our electricity from solar and wind. Hydrogen cars are not scheduled for release until 2012 because the battery technology isn't there to support hydrogen and hydrogen filling stations may cost as much as $2 Million each to construct. It's ironic that some hydrogen filling stations are using, ahem, natural gas to produce hydrogen, but let's not go there. As much as we'd love to move to renewables, the technology and infrastructure just isn't there and won't be for some time. Until then, we must chase oil no matter where it is. We can and must do both!! Americans are finally on board and if the Republicans making this a "wedge issue" based on the point that it will lower prices gets us there, I'm fine with it.




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Submitted By: David Brown
posted on 8/25/2008 @ 8:35:48 PM
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PS. Do you by cnance remember the days when one was really sure of something and we offered a $20 bet? I honestly don't what made me say $50 - maybe a subconscious reflection of inflation, I don't know. :-) I've never done that before. Just make it a "gentleman's bet." The details are too hard to pin down anyway. I'd be ecstatic if I turned out to be right anyway though I think this is an easy call.
Submitted By: David Brown
posted on 8/23/2008 @ 5:27:36 PM
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Bing - can I suggest you withhold judgement on the Republican party (on this issue) until after the recess? I'll bet you $50 bucks the story turns out just like I said it will. Pelosi will "debate drilling" and offer several poison pills that make it impossible for Republicans to support. Then you and she will say, "Well, we tried but the Republicans are too interested in dividing America." Wanna bet?? The Republicans want to debate the American Energy Act, which is a fair solution that makes everyone happy - except those who want to stick it to our oil companies - which you said you'd look at. Did you ever look at it? What do you think?
Submitted By: Bing Van Gorden
posted on 8/23/2008 @ 2:36:30 PM
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Richard I read your post and I am objective. Forgive me but when someone implies that I am willfully intending on destroying something I love, it pi$$es me off. That's juvenile BS. None of us want to destroy the country. Saying that isn't the same as simply disagreeing. And I find it laughable you suggest Reid and Pelosi are running congress like a dictatorship! They've been inept! The Republcans have held up the Senate with a record number of filibusters. The last batch of Republicans threatened to do away with it. Your suggestion is absurd on it's face. The last Republican controlled Congress would over-ride voice votes, turn the lights off and walk out of committee if someone dared to provide oversight of the executive branch. The House whip got caught bribing/blackmailing colleagues for votes holding sessions open for hours, etc. If you apply the same scrutiny to the last Republican hoarde and this Democratic one, you'd realize your criticism of the Dems is petty.
Submitted By: Bing Van Gorden
posted on 8/23/2008 @ 2:22:51 PM
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When I spoke of national security I was trying to get across that because of our dependence on foreign oil and how tightly that is woven into the fabric of our economy we are more vulnerable. I believe the Reagan conservative trickle down theory of economics did not foresee this result. Despite what some Republicans claim, Democrats are not impeding any new drilling except for a couple of areas and have shown a willingness to compromise. But instead, the Republicans are trying to hold this over the Democrats. Playing politics and doing improv theater during recess instead of reaaly working on a solution. Now just who is harming our national security here? The Republican Party.
Submitted By: Bing Van Gorden
posted on 8/23/2008 @ 2:17:54 PM
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For the last time David the oil companies are free to drill. No one's stopping them so stop trying to imply that we aren't aware of how important oil is. We're simply looking towards the future, planning for that while Republicans can't get out of the present. No one is ignoring the infrastructure question!
Submitted By: Richard Yale
posted on 8/22/2008 @ 2:52:57 PM
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Bing I don’t suffer fools in Congress gladly. Had you read my entire comment objectively you might have realized my concern is not just about energy independence & power politics, but the total abdication of responsibility and dictatorial leadership by Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and the other agenda-driven, anti-oil disciples in Congress who proposed drilling on leases, before they went on vacation where from exploration of said leases they & the oil companies already know there either is no oil, or no infrastructure to remove it or it simply is not economical where its at to recover with today’s technology. It was a pure sucker offer that dutifully-loyal party members swallowed, as proven by your remarks, hook, line and sinker. As Mr. Brown observes Pelosi spent two who days saying we can't drill instead of allowing debate on where we should and must drill. That's not being responsible, that is being a fool.
Submitted By: David Brown
posted on 8/21/2008 @ 8:37:04 PM
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I love the way you agree it's a national security issue and then make comments that suggest you have no idea what I'm talking about - you're just giving lip service to "national security." Bing - I read your stuff and comment on it directly. You (and Ralph) are using my stuff to continue the finger pointing and the venting instead of discussing the actual content of what I worked hard on. The only question the national security part of it begs is how is it a national security issue and what can we do to address those concerns. I answered both those questions. And your response: Republicans are lying sacks of excrement. Nice. (And I’ll remind you Pelosi spent two whole days saying we can’t drill before she turned out the lights and dismissed the House.)
Submitted By: David Brown
posted on 8/21/2008 @ 8:36:55 PM
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You keep ignoring the infrastucture question. The first question you need to answer is how are we going to get to work? Never mind getting to Grandma's house across the country but that would be nice to figure out too since most of us can’t afford a car to drive to work AND a gas-powered car to drive to Grandma’s. You have to figure out what it is that's going to power our cars and you have no idea. So until you even have the first, foggiest clue, CAN YOU LEAVE THE FINGER POINTING AND THE INNUENDO AND SHEER MAKING THINGS UP ALONE?? You’re flat our wrong when if you think we have to debate the entire history of which party blocked what. That makes no sense whatsoever.
Submitted By: Bing Van Gorden
posted on 8/21/2008 @ 7:48:19 PM
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David I agree that this is a national security issue. Which begs the question, how did we get here? We don't answer that, we can't fix the problem. Greed, speculation, market manipulation, actually writing our Nation's energy policy. Wars in Iraq, saber rattling with other oil producing countries while kissing the royal arse of the Saudis. Wasn't our fault, as I said, we have been saying this was coming for a long time while being ridiculed by Republicans the whole while. You want to drill more, fine. No one is saying they can't. But what else? We have to move away from oil dependence as fast as we can. We can revitalize our economy with investment in alternative energy sources. The point liberals and other Democrats are trying to make is more oil is not a solution, it's a band aid. And the Republicans are dishonestly suggesting this is our only option and the Democrats are against it. Two bald faced lies.
Submitted By: Bing Van Gorden
posted on 8/21/2008 @ 7:42:28 PM
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continued... Republicans blocked resources into alternative forms of energy every chance they had. Had we listened to those environmental whackos back in the early 80s we'd be exporting that technology today with little dependence on the black goop.
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