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My take on the political scene, spiced with bits of life-as-it-happens. I'll try and separate the fertilizer from the facts, at least as I see it. Coming from the perspective of a not-so-average guy with little or no respect for sacred cows, moose or squirrels. A master debater and wielder of a needle-sharp wit guaranteed to pop the toughest gasbag. Count on seeing people you know and love lampooned and harpooned with impunity and puns galore. No one will be spared, that's a promise. (Note: this blog not recommended for the humor-impaired and you know who you is.)

Death Spiral
Contributed by: Doug Wray   on 8/2/2008

Looking at some of the predictions about the economy today. These are brutal - and many already coming true.

Go ahead, pooh-pooh all you like, ask any realtor - any commercial realtor especially, how they're doing. They'll likely lie, but watch for that tell-tale eyetwitch. Yeah, you know the one.

1)Housing prices and sales will continue to decline. Expect 3 years before the bottom, as a very optimistic best case scenario.

2) Commercial real-estate will suffer a steep decline as well.

3) Consumer demand will drop. Unemployment will rise.

4) The US will go into a recession at best, a depression at worst. Expect first stagflation.

5) The Asian economies are not going to "decouple", they are going to have their own financial crises and recessions. Yes, this includes China.

6) China's stock market will collapse some time next year.

7)Multiple banks will probably go insolvent.

8) Protectionism is going to get stronger.

9) I wouldn't be surprised, at some point, to see capital controls put in place to stop money-flight from the US.

10) When the full extent of how bad things are hits Joe Public, expect a move for reregulation of Wall Street and to reinstitute something similiar to Glass-Steagall.

11) The government will have to bail out Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac because they are insolvent. Minimum 500 billion dollars.

12) Large waves of government layoffs at the municipal and state levels as the inability to raise money cheaply and the reduced property taxes cascade through the system.

13) The price of oil will actually drop as there is an actual demand reduction for oil. Don't expect this to necessarily be reflected in pump prices, which are constrained by refinery capacity.

14) The federal government will become the largest holder of mortgages, and in effect, owner of houses, in the country. By far.

15) A serious collapse of the US stock market, probably by September at the latest. Maybe within a couple months.

16) One of the Big 3 car companies goes under. Then it'll probably get bailed out.

17) So many countries selling oil in Euros that the dollar is no longer the world's sovereign currency

18) By the end of 2009, actual reported starvation/malnutrition deaths unless Congress and the new president step in with significant aid. The food banks aren't keeping up and neither are food stamps.

19) Continued drops in illegal immigration, whether or not the new president continues having them rounded up in large numbers. The jobs just aren't there for them anymore, especially with the crashing real-estate industry. Many of them made their living as casual construction labor.

20) A huge push to gut entitlements in 2009, no matter who is president. Even if the US quickly pulls out of Iraq, the deficit will be totally out of control, and hundreds of billions will be needed for bailouts. A rapid consensus will form that rather than increasing taxes significantly on the rich, or slashing expenses like the military R&D and equipment appropriations budget, that the real problem is people retiring at 65, poor people getting Medicaid and old folks who aren't destitute receiving Medicare.






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Submitted By: Doug Wray
posted on 8/23/2008 @ 2:59:37 AM
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If McLame goes in as Prez, it will get worse.
Submitted By: David Brown
posted on 8/4/2008 @ 9:09:28 PM
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We're screwed whether the dollar tanks or not.
Submitted By: David Brown
posted on 8/4/2008 @ 8:57:01 PM
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Actually, the dollar has been in an uptrend since the March 17th lows. Check it out: http://www.fxstreet.com/rates-charts/usdollar-index/ When you get there and it takes a while to load, change frequency to weekly and chart style to line. I know! I don't get it either, especially in the face of a $300 Billion congressional spending spree. It could be cash is on the move but I doubt it. It will likely reverse in a week or so when it hits that 50 day moving average. When Bush announced the $150 Billion election year bribe, I mean stimulus on Jan. 25th, the dollar when up then too before its freefall to the March 17 lows.
Submitted By: Bing Van Gorden
posted on 8/4/2008 @ 5:13:10 PM
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The US dollar is being denied in places it was gladly accepted around the world a decade ago. You can call it inflation, stagnation, infelatio for all I care. The dollar is tanking and we may be very very screwed.
Submitted By: David Brown
posted on 8/3/2008 @ 12:19:44 PM
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You would be absoultely right if our problems turn out to be INFLATION oriented. I trust you're in the inflation camp. I can relate to that - it's where I was until Friday. But to be in the inflation camp, you have to ignore what is happening with banks. And if you ignore what is happening with the banks, then the Krueger kids will turn out to be fine since they're banks too. #11 and #17 are mutally exclusive. One of them HAS to be wrong.
Submitted By: Doug Wray
posted on 8/3/2008 @ 9:46:45 AM
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I have to disagree about the US currency - the way we're going who would WANT to base ANYTHING on US Dollars? It's sentiment that -starts- the movement, pragmatism that keeps it going. The Europeans and Middle East can see the US coming apart at the seams and they have their own oil issues.
Submitted By: Doug Wray
posted on 8/3/2008 @ 9:45:22 AM
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Several of those predictions were made some time ago... the proof of a 'prophet' is accuracy. Why, even our favorite crystal ball-polisher isn't that good...
Submitted By: David Brown
posted on 8/2/2008 @ 9:55:10 PM
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About #8 - NO WAY!! That's what led to The Great Depression. I know we have a hard time learning from history but in this case, we BETTER not forget that!!
Submitted By: David Brown
posted on 8/2/2008 @ 9:52:22 PM
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About #11. When Congress passed that stupid $300 Billion bailout, they included $25-$50 Billion for the Krueger kids, Freddie and Fannie. (I love that - stole it from the Wednesday blogger from Investor's Daily Edge, Russell McDougal.) I had to laugh out loud!!
Submitted By: Amy Mann
posted on 8/2/2008 @ 8:56:31 PM
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On an average, 8,000 homes are foreclosed on daily in the U.S.
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